• 29th June 2026
  • By Jess Hill

03: Why do they do it?

Episode 03
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Content warning: domestic abuse and violence.

How does a boy go from being loving and compassionate to cruel and controlling? And is it possible for abusers to change?

This episode features real-time audio of abuse that may be especially distressing to some listeners. This audio starts at 14:57 and ends at 19:12 should you wish to skip through it.

Features: David Nugent, Maggie Woodhead, Phil Jones, Terry Real and a number of victim-survivors whose identities are protected.

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This is a series about love, abuse and power. Hosted by Jess Hill, this podcast looks deeply at abuse that happens in private, and in public, searching the world for answers to the questions that continue to confound us.

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Jess Hill
Jess Hill is an investigative journalist, the author of See What You Made Me Do and The Reckoning, and one of Australia’s most recognised and respected thinkers on gendered violence. In addition to her broadcast work – two highly acclaimed docuseries on SBS and The Trap – she has spoken at almost 400 events across the country. Her work has won three Walkley Awards, an Amnesty International Award and the Stella Prize in 2020. In 2023, she was named Marie Claire Changemaker of the Year and in 2024, the NSW Premier’s Woman of Excellence.