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  • 30th June 2026
  • By Ellen van Neerven

Episode 3: Race

Episode 3
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Hosts Ellen and Hermina read a range of poems that go to the heart of race, identity and belonging.

Featured poets: Eunice Andrada, Aunty Kuracca Kerry Reed-Gilbert, Ellen van Neerven, Lisa Bellear, Hermina Burns.

Poems (in order):
Bellear, Lisa. “Hanover Street Brunswick 3056”. Australian Literature Diary blog, Kerryn Goldsworthy, 2006.
van Neerven, Ellen. “Chips”. ABR’s States of Poetry, 2016.
Burns, Hermina. “Sister Love.” Dodging the relative.
Reed-Gilbert, Aunty Kuracca Kerry. “Got Ya.” States of Poetry 2017 – ACT anthology, Australian Book Review, 2017.
Andrada, Eunice. “(Because I Am a Daughter) of Diaspora” Solid Air: Australian and New Zealand Spoken Word, UQP, 2019.
Correction: We refer to the 1997 report on the Stolen Generation, Bringing them Home as headed by Ronald Henderson. It was in fact headed by Sir Ronald Wilson.

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Between the Leaves is a poetry podcast hosted by Ellen van Neerven and Hermina Burns. In each episode, Ellen and Hermina illuminate poems written by women and the gender diverse, as well as their own original works, moving through themes like love, race and feminism.

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Ellen van Neerven
Ellen van Neerven (they/them) is a writer, editor and educator of Mununjali and Dutch heritage. Ellen’s fiction debut Heat and Light (UQP, 2014) was the recipient of the David Unaipon Award, the Dobbie Literary Award and the NSW Premier’s Literary Awards Indigenous Writers Prize. Their first poetry collection Comfort Food (UQP, 2016) won the Tina Kane Emergent Award and was shortlisted for the NSW Premier’s Literary Awards Kenneth Slessor Prize. Throat (UQP, 2020) was the recipient of Book of the Year, the Kenneth Slessor Prize and the Multicultural Award at 2021 NSW Literary Awards and the inaugural Quentin Bryce Award. Personal Score: Sport, Culture, Identity (UQP, 2023, Two Dollar Radio, 2024) received the Victorian Premier’s Literary Award for Non Fiction and was longlisted for the Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Nonfiction. Their first play, swim, produced by Griffin Theatre Company, premiered at Carriageworks in Sydney in 2024. Ellen’s latest book Ruby’s Web (Magabala, 2026) is a middle grade novel. It is a powerful story about finding your voice, seeking help, and addressing cyberbullying and victimisation.