Between the Leaves

Between the Leaves is poetry podcast hosted by Ellen van Neerven and Hermina Burns.

In each episode, Ellen and Hermina illuminate poems written by women and the gender diverse, as well as their own original works, moving through themes like love, race and feminism.

Meet our hosts

Hermina Burns

Hermina Burns is an Australian poet of migrant ancestry mostly from Britian and northern and eastern Europe.

She is the author of two volumes of poetry, Against Separation Creek & Bite of a bluebottle (2020), examining the experience of women’s lives in Australia.

Ellen van Neerven

Ellen van Neerven is an award-winning writer of Mununjali Yugambeh (South East Queensland) and Dutch heritage.

They write fiction, poetry, plays and non-fiction, including the highly acclaimed Heat & Light (2014), Comfort Food (2016) and Throat (2019).