Between the Leaves
Episode eight: The Natural World

as absent sand reveals nothing more than round eroded road stones

Hosts Ellen and Hermina share a selection of poems exploring place, country and the natural world.

Featured poets

Mary Oliver

Kirli Saunders

Emily Dickinson

Gabriela Mistral

Hermina Burns

Loula Rodopoulos

Ellen van Neerven

Poems (in order of appearance)

Oliver, Mary. ‘I Go Down to the Shore’. A Thousand Mornings, New York: Penguin Press, 2012.

Saunders, Kirli. ‘Dear Ancestors’. Kindred, Broome: Magabala Books, 2019.

Dickinson, Emily. ‘This is my letter to the world’. The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson, Boston: Little, Brown, 1955

Mistral, Gabriela. ‘Three Trees’. Selected Poems of Gabriela Mistral, translated by Ursula K. Le Guin, University of New Mexico Press, 2003.

Burns, Hermina. ‘The bay at Separation creek’. Against Separation Creek, Bristlebird Press, 2019.

Rodopoulos, Loula.  ‘Chestnuts’. Loula Rodopoulos – Our Tribute, Victorian Women’s Benevolent Trust, 2015.

van Neerven, Ellen. ‘Whole Lot’. Comfort Food, Brisbane: University of Queensland Press, 2016.


Hosts Ellen van Neerven, Hermina Burns

Music (Intro) Loop Lady – 2. In the Middle by Sally Whitwell; (outro) Black Smoke by Emily Wurramara

Co-producers Mary Crooks AO, Maria Chetcuti, Ally Oliver-Perham

Sound engineer Nicholas Pollock

Recording  Squeak E. Clean Studios, the Voice Plant

Graphic design Aimee Carruthers